1 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:13,950 you 2 00:00:18,190 --> 00:00:16,570 so my name is Alex pixel I'm a graduate 3 00:00:20,589 --> 00:00:18,200 student at the University of Arizona 4 00:00:22,630 --> 00:00:20,599 I work in Daniel up high in his and 5 00:00:24,940 --> 00:00:22,640 other solar system work that's a project 6 00:00:27,910 --> 00:00:24,950 funded by NASA exoplanet Nexus program 7 00:00:31,290 --> 00:00:27,920 and today I'm going to be talking about 8 00:00:34,510 --> 00:00:31,300 the bulk properties of Proxima Centuri 9 00:00:36,430 --> 00:00:34,520 so some background and the month since 10 00:00:38,590 --> 00:00:36,440 the discovery we've seen a lot of really 11 00:00:40,930 --> 00:00:38,600 in depth and really insightful work done 12 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:40,940 to treat this planet's atmosphere and 13 00:00:45,569 --> 00:00:43,370 potential habitability orbital evolution 14 00:00:48,670 --> 00:00:45,579 and even as we've seen the 15 00:00:49,660 --> 00:00:48,680 prospects for a characterization in the 16 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:49,670 near future and I'm sure we're going to 17 00:00:53,110 --> 00:00:51,290 hear a lot more about that today but 18 00:00:54,910 --> 00:00:53,120 what I want to talk about and it's a lot 19 00:00:56,310 --> 00:00:54,920 along the slides of what Steven Kage's 20 00:00:58,990 --> 00:00:56,320 talked about is 21 00:01:00,850 --> 00:00:59,000 what underlying assumptions do we have 22 00:01:02,799 --> 00:01:00,860 here about the planets bulk properties 23 00:01:03,999 --> 00:01:02,809 in particular I want to know what can we 24 00:01:06,279 --> 00:01:04,009 observe and what can we not 25 00:01:08,170 --> 00:01:06,289 observational II constrain so we can 26 00:01:10,090 --> 00:01:08,180 observe stellar properties and many of 27 00:01:12,370 --> 00:01:10,100 the orbital properties but we don't know 28 00:01:14,830 --> 00:01:12,380 the inclination and so as we've heard 29 00:01:16,539 --> 00:01:14,840 when you measure an RV signal you're 30 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:16,549 only given the mass projected along 31 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:19,610 basically your line of sight what we 32 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:21,770 cannot directly observe is a rocky or 33 00:01:25,270 --> 00:01:23,570 terrestrial composition we can't 34 00:01:26,500 --> 00:01:25,280 directly determine what the mass is and 35 00:01:28,810 --> 00:01:26,510 we really don't have much of a 36 00:01:31,060 --> 00:01:28,820 constraint observational e on what the 37 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:31,070 radius might be I'm particularly 38 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:32,570 concerned about the composition here 39 00:01:37,330 --> 00:01:35,450 there's been a growing consensus of sort 40 00:01:39,820 --> 00:01:37,340 of bimodal distribution from one to four 41 00:01:41,289 --> 00:01:39,830 Earth radii where you have of course 42 00:01:43,630 --> 00:01:41,299 planets like the earth small radius 43 00:01:46,380 --> 00:01:43,640 higher density but also larger planets 44 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:46,390 with higher volatile on ice fractions 45 00:01:52,090 --> 00:01:48,290 similar in composition to but not 46 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:52,100 necessarily as large as Neptune and of 47 00:01:55,030 --> 00:01:53,210 course that would have serious 48 00:01:56,170 --> 00:01:55,040 implications for the habitability which 49 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:56,180 brings effect to the scene of this 50 00:01:59,920 --> 00:01:57,130 session 51 00:02:01,450 --> 00:01:59,930 so my general method is to place the 52 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:01,460 observational constraints that we do 53 00:02:05,859 --> 00:02:03,290 have into a Bayesian framework where I 54 00:02:08,380 --> 00:02:05,869 substitute the non directly observable 55 00:02:10,539 --> 00:02:08,390 parameters with statistical priors based 56 00:02:12,310 --> 00:02:10,549 on previous work from planets for which 57 00:02:14,020 --> 00:02:12,320 for example we have combined transit and 58 00:02:18,350 --> 00:02:14,030 RD mass measurements for TGV mass 59 00:02:23,630 --> 00:02:21,320 it there we go occurrence rates from 60 00:02:27,020 --> 00:02:23,640 Kepler for the radius mass radius 61 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:27,030 relationship to determine the mass we 62 00:02:30,020 --> 00:02:28,890 don't really have any observational 63 00:02:31,820 --> 00:02:30,030 constraints on the inclination I've 64 00:02:34,070 --> 00:02:31,830 assumed an isotropic distribution and 65 00:02:36,950 --> 00:02:34,080 then we have composition as a function 66 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:36,960 of radius so I reference a pretty highly 67 00:02:42,860 --> 00:02:40,410 cited work by Leslie Rogers in 2015 who 68 00:02:44,180 --> 00:02:42,870 found that above about 1.6 or 3-day you 69 00:02:47,290 --> 00:02:44,190 see a sharp drop-off in the number of 70 00:02:49,990 --> 00:02:47,300 planets which are dense enough to be 71 00:02:52,190 --> 00:02:50,000 explained by a rocky composition 72 00:02:53,390 --> 00:02:52,200 so we feed all these priors in the 73 00:02:55,540 --> 00:02:53,400 observables into a Monte Carlo 74 00:02:58,190 --> 00:02:55,550 simulation from which we can extract 75 00:02:59,630 --> 00:02:58,200 posterior constraints on the mass the 76 00:03:01,510 --> 00:02:59,640 radius and the composition which are not 77 00:03:03,920 --> 00:03:01,520 directly observable 78 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:03,930 so all directorates into the right panel 79 00:03:07,820 --> 00:03:06,450 here this represents a posterior mass 80 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:07,830 distribution for the actual mass 81 00:03:12,650 --> 00:03:10,890 approximate Cindy I decomposed it into a 82 00:03:14,270 --> 00:03:12,660 blue shaded region representing a rocky 83 00:03:16,610 --> 00:03:14,280 population in the red shaded region 84 00:03:18,050 --> 00:03:16,620 representing a I call it a sub Neptune 85 00:03:19,970 --> 00:03:18,060 population but basically with a large 86 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:19,980 volatile component or perhaps ice 87 00:03:23,479 --> 00:03:21,810 fraction and of course we see that the 88 00:03:25,340 --> 00:03:23,489 Iraqi population dominates the posterior 89 00:03:26,949 --> 00:03:25,350 mass distribution as we should expect 90 00:03:29,210 --> 00:03:26,959 for special Mass Planet 91 00:03:31,580 --> 00:03:29,220 we can extract from our parts terior 92 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:31,590 distributions expectation values and to 93 00:03:34,660 --> 00:03:33,690 Sigma confidence intervals for the mass 94 00:03:36,710 --> 00:03:34,670 and radius 95 00:03:38,449 --> 00:03:36,720 briefly what I'll note here is of course 96 00:03:40,910 --> 00:03:38,459 the expectation value for the mass is a 97 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:40,920 bit higher than the proposed measured a 98 00:03:46,370 --> 00:03:44,250 so-called minimum mass of which we would 99 00:03:48,199 --> 00:03:46,380 expect and also that the radius as I 100 00:03:49,550 --> 00:03:48,209 mentioned is not even with these 101 00:03:51,380 --> 00:03:49,560 constraints taken into place is not 102 00:03:52,729 --> 00:03:51,390 particularly well constrained but I 103 00:03:53,710 --> 00:03:52,739 thought that these values might be of 104 00:03:56,150 --> 00:03:53,720 use to 105 00:03:57,530 --> 00:03:56,160 in particular modelers who are trying to 106 00:03:59,570 --> 00:03:57,540 understand the interior composition of 107 00:04:01,190 --> 00:03:59,580 this planet we asked the question is the 108 00:04:03,949 --> 00:04:01,200 planet rocky we find that in our 109 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:03,959 posterior distributions about 90% of the 110 00:04:07,820 --> 00:04:05,730 cases the planet does have a rocky 111 00:04:10,580 --> 00:04:07,830 composition bearing in mind that based 112 00:04:12,199 --> 00:04:10,590 on the scheme were using this work by 113 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:12,209 Leslie Rogers in 2015 doesn't 114 00:04:17,449 --> 00:04:14,850 necessarily exclude very low radius 115 00:04:19,310 --> 00:04:17,459 population of volatile rich components 116 00:04:21,650 --> 00:04:19,320 so I put that as an upper bound but I 117 00:04:23,540 --> 00:04:21,660 imagine it's pretty close so these are 118 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:23,550 the work this Buser results I published 119 00:04:28,650 --> 00:04:26,890 in February but what I'd like to do is 120 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:28,660 expand upon this work for the more 121 00:04:32,940 --> 00:04:30,250 recent result from the California Kepler 122 00:04:36,330 --> 00:04:32,950 survey so we've seen a paper on the 123 00:04:38,460 --> 00:04:36,340 archive as of March I think which finds 124 00:04:40,710 --> 00:04:38,470 evidence for a dual peak distribution in 125 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:40,720 the occurrence rates centered around 126 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:43,570 about 1.75 Earth radii so this very 127 00:04:47,250 --> 00:04:45,130 straightforwardly lends itself to the 128 00:04:49,650 --> 00:04:47,260 interpretation that I've been discussing 129 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:49,660 which is that we have a low radius more 130 00:04:53,970 --> 00:04:51,130 rocky population in a higher radius 131 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:53,980 volatile population in fact if you were 132 00:04:58,710 --> 00:04:55,810 here on Tuesday there is a talk by Owen 133 00:05:01,710 --> 00:04:58,720 labour who presented a hydrogen manacle 134 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:01,720 model a formulation which predicted that 135 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:03,490 plaintiffs below 1.7 or three-day would 136 00:05:08,070 --> 00:05:06,010 lose volatile atmospheres very early on 137 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:08,080 in the life Channel to start so this is 138 00:05:12,630 --> 00:05:09,730 highly consistent with that if we just 139 00:05:15,540 --> 00:05:12,640 take this as a hard boundary at 1.75 we 140 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:15,550 had somewhat higher kin estimates for 141 00:05:18,390 --> 00:05:17,050 the expectation values for its mass and 142 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:18,400 radius and I think a much better 143 00:05:22,110 --> 00:05:20,050 constraint on the probability that it's 144 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:22,120 actually a rocky planet as originally 145 00:05:28,370 --> 00:05:24,730 proposed in the discovery paper that's 146 00:05:31,500 --> 00:05:28,380 about 95 percent so I'll discuss the 147 00:05:32,820 --> 00:05:31,510 significance of these results so for 148 00:05:34,230 --> 00:05:32,830 this target in particular I think we can 149 00:05:36,420 --> 00:05:34,240 all agree this is one of the most 150 00:05:38,820 --> 00:05:36,430 interesting targets we have I've 151 00:05:40,409 --> 00:05:38,830 provided more robust constraints on the 152 00:05:42,030 --> 00:05:40,419 mass radius and Composition the more 153 00:05:45,090 --> 00:05:42,040 originally available following discovery 154 00:05:48,840 --> 00:05:45,100 in particular I've calculated that it's 155 00:05:50,810 --> 00:05:48,850 about 95 percent likely that this planet 156 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:50,820 does in fact have a composition 157 00:05:56,190 --> 00:05:53,370 comparable to that of the earth of 158 00:05:58,200 --> 00:05:56,200 then there's that one in 20 case and I 159 00:06:00,420 --> 00:05:58,210 think that becomes that it could 160 00:06:01,860 --> 00:06:00,430 actually have a volatile component I 161 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:01,870 think that becomes important when you 162 00:06:06,330 --> 00:06:04,330 start expanding if we are able to push 163 00:06:09,420 --> 00:06:06,340 down our V sensitivity and find more and 164 00:06:13,700 --> 00:06:09,430 more small sized exoplanets in the 165 00:06:18,090 --> 00:06:16,530 what I have here is a plot of the chance 166 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:18,100 that this planet is going to be rocky as 167 00:06:21,780 --> 00:06:20,050 a function of the measured in times of 168 00:06:23,540 --> 00:06:21,790 sine the inclination assuming all the 169 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:23,550 other parameters stay about the same and 170 00:06:27,540 --> 00:06:25,690 what we see of course is that it falls 171 00:06:29,100 --> 00:06:27,550 off with increasing maps but also that 172 00:06:30,659 --> 00:06:29,110 it seems to be highly sensitive to where 173 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:30,669 we draw this cutoff in our planet 174 00:06:35,550 --> 00:06:33,610 populations in your current rates to 175 00:06:38,310 --> 00:06:35,560 which radius does this transition 176 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:41,080 so yeah in particularly basically this I 177 00:06:45,340 --> 00:06:42,890 want to know what I want to know is what 178 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:45,350 are the underlying populations here what 179 00:06:48,820 --> 00:06:47,090 do these constituent populations look 180 00:06:50,980 --> 00:06:48,830 like in a function of occurrence versus 181 00:06:53,350 --> 00:06:50,990 radius it turns out if you have some 182 00:06:55,540 --> 00:06:53,360 pollution of the sub Neptune population 183 00:06:57,430 --> 00:06:55,550 to lower radii maybe 0.1 0.2 it doesn't 184 00:06:58,720 --> 00:06:57,440 significantly impact the results we 185 00:07:00,190 --> 00:06:58,730 could imagine that there's a very long 186 00:07:02,590 --> 00:07:00,200 tail here that which could extend all 187 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:02,600 the way down to about north radius and 188 00:07:05,890 --> 00:07:04,250 could significantly increase the 189 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:05,900 likelihood that we have the sub neptune 190 00:07:09,450 --> 00:07:07,970 masquerading as a 1.3 earth-mass planet 191 00:07:11,710 --> 00:07:09,460 I 192 00:07:12,730 --> 00:07:11,720 also think it's important to understand 193 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:12,740 the spread in the mass radius 194 00:07:17,260 --> 00:07:14,570 relationship I borrowed this figure from 195 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:17,270 the Weiss and Marci paper in 2014 but I 196 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:19,010 can also provide an anecdote so in the 197 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:20,450 past four weeks we discovered a rocky 198 00:07:25,060 --> 00:07:23,090 planet with a density all the 12 to 13 199 00:07:27,910 --> 00:07:25,070 grams per cubic centimeter around the M 200 00:07:31,330 --> 00:07:27,920 star in the habitable zone of LHS 1140 B 201 00:07:33,970 --> 00:07:31,340 we have also had seen updated masses for 202 00:07:35,830 --> 00:07:33,980 the Trappist one planets which assigns 203 00:07:38,230 --> 00:07:35,840 them densities which are consistent with 204 00:07:40,420 --> 00:07:38,240 a very significant water fraction 50 205 00:07:42,490 --> 00:07:40,430 percentile under person and so these are 206 00:07:43,930 --> 00:07:42,500 very similar systems and that they're 207 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:43,940 both in stars they're both receiving 208 00:07:47,980 --> 00:07:45,770 about the same amount of insulation and 209 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:47,990 yet we have such a large spread what 210 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:49,250 these compositions can be and that 211 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:51,530 provides us a lot of uncertainty and 212 00:07:54,540 --> 00:07:52,850 what the radius is if we can't measure 213 00:07:56,770 --> 00:07:54,550 it directly 214 00:07:58,810 --> 00:07:56,780 in general I think that we could apply 215 00:08:01,390 --> 00:07:58,820 this method to say directly imaged 216 00:08:03,670 --> 00:08:01,400 exoplanets if you know what planet this 217 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:03,680 is you know it's not a rocky planet but 218 00:08:07,870 --> 00:08:05,450 we could imagine that we had seen 219 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:07,880 something like this and we only have an 220 00:08:11,530 --> 00:08:10,250 idea of what the luminosity is that's a 221 00:08:13,420 --> 00:08:11,540 function of the radius as well as the 222 00:08:15,190 --> 00:08:13,430 albedo in the solar system even among 223 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:15,200 solar system rocky planets albedo is 224 00:08:19,300 --> 00:08:17,810 highly unconstrained and so if we could 225 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:19,310 get some sort of modeling prior 226 00:08:24,190 --> 00:08:21,770 constraints on what the albedo of a 227 00:08:26,380 --> 00:08:24,200 rocky planet is or volatile which planet 228 00:08:28,270 --> 00:08:26,390 is or colors photometric colors as well 229 00:08:29,710 --> 00:08:28,280 that can bind to the spectra would give 230 00:08:31,570 --> 00:08:29,720 us a much better idea of what kinds of 231 00:08:34,270 --> 00:08:31,580 targets targets were actually looking at 232 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:34,280 with missions like Oh James goad would 233 00:08:40,659 --> 00:08:37,090 mainly have X blue bar 234 00:08:43,060 --> 00:08:40,669 so in conclusion I provided two sigma or 235 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:43,070 95% confidence interval constraints on 236 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:45,250 the mass and radius of this planet 237 00:08:49,730 --> 00:08:47,930 I've also provided an estimate of just 238 00:08:51,680 --> 00:08:49,740 how likely it is at this point in fact 239 00:08:53,420 --> 00:08:51,690 rocky and I think it's fairly high but 240 00:08:54,890 --> 00:08:53,430 of course because there's such a high 241 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:54,900 mass tale and a potential for low mass 242 00:08:59,750 --> 00:08:57,810 vault average planets it's not one I 243 00:09:02,210 --> 00:08:59,760 think we need to do further work in 244 00:09:03,820 --> 00:09:02,220 particular to understand the underlying 245 00:09:06,620 --> 00:09:03,830 distribution of 246 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:06,630 sub Neptune's versus rocky sized planets 247 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:09,930 in radius space and to understand what 248 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:11,370 causes the spread of the mass radius 249 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:13,170 relationship can we control for factors 250 00:09:17,990 --> 00:09:16,410 such as stellar type or luminosity and 251 00:09:19,330 --> 00:09:18,000 finally I would generally encourage a 252 00:09:23,990 --> 00:09:19,340 more 253 00:09:26,870 --> 00:09:24,000 large-scale statistical approach to 254 00:09:28,730 --> 00:09:26,880 interpreting our results when we have 255 00:09:31,130 --> 00:09:28,740 planets with unobservable parameters 256 00:09:37,990 --> 00:09:31,140 namely our V detected indirectly image 257 00:09:43,660 --> 00:09:40,880 all right thank you Alex I so yes we 258 00:09:45,680 --> 00:09:43,670 have plenty time for questions okay 259 00:09:47,330 --> 00:09:45,690 Washington 260 00:09:49,100 --> 00:09:47,340 I love the talk I love your last 261 00:09:51,110 --> 00:09:49,110 sentence I'm a big fan of Bayesian 262 00:09:53,750 --> 00:09:51,120 statistics I just want to echo what I 263 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:53,760 said earlier that in the case when we 264 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:55,650 don't have data like for this planet 265 00:09:59,090 --> 00:09:57,210 like we don't know what it's true mass 266 00:10:01,550 --> 00:09:59,100 is and we have very little directly 267 00:10:03,710 --> 00:10:01,560 observed properties we want to use as 268 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:03,720 many of the priors that we have 269 00:10:08,450 --> 00:10:05,250 available as possible and so it'd be 270 00:10:09,980 --> 00:10:08,460 awesome if we did combine the geometric 271 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:09,990 probability with the studies that you 272 00:10:16,790 --> 00:10:13,770 showed up mass radius relations with the 273 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:16,800 information that M dwarfs don't have 274 00:10:21,680 --> 00:10:19,170 giant planets look at actual the 275 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:21,690 actually the distribution of planet 276 00:10:24,410 --> 00:10:23,010 population as a function of stellar mass 277 00:10:26,180 --> 00:10:24,420 and incorporate that into a Bayesian 278 00:10:27,590 --> 00:10:26,190 framework I imagine this would give you 279 00:10:29,680 --> 00:10:27,600 even stronger constraints on the 280 00:10:32,090 --> 00:10:29,690 probability that it's rocky oh 281 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:32,100 right so these are the occurrence rates 282 00:10:36,980 --> 00:10:34,530 that you use for reference and right I 283 00:10:38,510 --> 00:10:36,990 haven't really thought specifically in 284 00:10:39,620 --> 00:10:38,520 terms of what populations appear around 285 00:10:41,540 --> 00:10:39,630 endorsing I think that would be 286 00:10:44,510 --> 00:10:41,550 important but I do at least try to 287 00:10:46,370 --> 00:10:44,520 constrain the occurrence rates of radii 288 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:46,380 that's awesome I must have missed it 289 00:10:52,869 --> 00:10:48,530 slightly ya know it could be that some 290 00:10:57,519 --> 00:10:55,059 this graph and it's about one to one but 291 00:10:59,199 --> 00:10:57,529 this is not for any stars right right so 292 00:11:03,689 --> 00:10:59,209 of course that's something important to 293 00:11:09,340 --> 00:11:07,109 any more questions 294 00:11:10,270 --> 00:11:09,350 all right well if not let's thank Alex